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Correct Bands for Twin Walterr Kidde 38's

Sun May 27, 2018 10:55 am

Hey Folks,
I was wondering what the correct bands for a twin set of Walter Kidde 38's were. I want to get a harness from Allan for them. They are1800 psi 1944 dated and passed VIS/Tumble & hydro with flying colors in Dec. 2017. They came with a set that fits on a Dacor 1966 backpack, but these can't be the originals. The manifold is VERY early has no bushings and fits directly into the tanks. The valve has the uber large flat o-rings circa 1949?. Any suggestions?
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Re: Correct Bands for Twin Walterr Kidde 38's

Sun May 27, 2018 12:34 pm

Allan sells bands for his harnesses. Don't know if they are accurate Walter Kidde reproductions but he may know.
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Re: Correct Bands for Twin Walterr Kidde 38's

Sun May 27, 2018 2:38 pm

Bronze06 wrote:
Sun May 27, 2018 10:55 am
Hey Folks,
I was wondering what the correct bands for a twin set of Walter Kidde 38's were. I want to get a harness from Allan for them. They are1800 psi 1944 dated and passed VIS/Tumble & hydro with flying colors in Dec. 2017. They came with a set that fits on a Dacor 1966 backpack, but these can't be the originals. The manifold is VERY early has no bushings and fits directly into the tanks. The valve has the uber large flat o-rings circa 1949?. Any suggestions?
You might measure the circumference with a tape or string, and compare to a 72. Probably only slightly smaller and same bands may work.

The manifold sounds familiar. Are the valve sections bare brass with brass caps screwed on top, and crossbar satin chrome? May be like one I have that makes for a nice low profile to help keep the reg low. Post a photo if you have time. Mine are stored 50 miles away for now.
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Re: Correct Bands for Twin Walterr Kidde 38's

Sun May 27, 2018 2:46 pm

antique diver wrote:
Sun May 27, 2018 2:38 pm
Bronze06 wrote:
Sun May 27, 2018 10:55 am
Hey Folks,
I was wondering what the correct bands for a twin set of Walter Kidde 38's were. I want to get a harness from Allan for them. They are1800 psi 1944 dated and passed VIS/Tumble & hydro with flying colors in Dec. 2017. They came with a set that fits on a Dacor 1966 backpack, but these can't be the originals. The manifold is VERY early has no bushings and fits directly into the tanks. The valve has the uber large flat o-rings circa 1949?. Any suggestions?
You might measure the circumference with a tape or string, and compare to a 72. Probably only slightly smaller and same bands may work.

The manifold sounds familiar. Are the valve sections bare brass with brass caps screwed on top, and crossbar satin chrome? May be like one I have that makes for a nice low profile to help keep the reg low. Post a photo if you have time. Mine are stored 50 miles away for now.
Found a photo. Are they like these?
1. Old Manifold.JPG
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Re: Correct Bands for Twin Walterr Kidde 38's

Thu May 31, 2018 10:44 am

- I think the Walter Kidd Scuba 38s were usually conversions from either military oxygen tanks or CO2 fire extinguishers. Some were 1/2" NPT and some were the larger thread requiring the bushing. I think even the dive equipment manufacturers were re-purposing these tanks to some extent (Vigo 18 and Vigo 38 from USD). So, if the original WK tanks were mainly conversions, I don't know if there is a "correct" set of bands.
- I like the military style bands and harness like USD originally offered. But I've seen (and bought some) conversions with other set ups... One had the USD "Dogbone" back plate with USD top band and a Voit bottom band. One had the black vinyl coated USD bands top and bottom. etc.
- I have original USD military style bands on three of my doubles and a set of Allen's bands on 1 set of doubles. Allen's really are beautiful. They are brushed stainless steel and a little thicker/stronger than the original USD bands. I highly recommend them.
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